Item: ONSV26WSV086

Original German WWI Maxim LMG 08/15 Aircraft Display Machine Gun, Spandau 1917, Serial 1518 a

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This item is a BATF-compliant, fully deactivated display machine gun and is not classified as a firearm under U.S. federal law. It has been permanently rendered incapable of discharging ammunition and cannot be converted to functional condition. As such, it does not require an FFL transfer, registration, or federal license for ownership or shipment within the United States. U.S. Sales Only: Due to legal restrictions, this item is available for sale and shipment within the United States only. It cannot be exported outside the U.S. under any circumstances. Purchasers are responsible for ensuring compliance with all federal, state, and local laws regarding the possession and display of inert or deactivated firearms in their jurisdiction.

  • Original Item: Only One Available. This is an original German WWI Maxim pattern LMG 08/15 display machine gun, built from all original parts on an original BATF compliant non-firing receiver, making this a 100% legal displayMachine gun. It featuers a Spandau marked 1917 dated top cover and serial number 1518 a. The gun incorporates aircraft configuration components, including the lightened air cooled barrel jacket and front mounting bracket, but also contains nonmatching and ground gun components. It has been extensively deactivated for inert display and is missing several operating components.


    All parts are original, and the right side plate and right barrel extension have been deactivated per BATF guidelines. There is a 3 3/8" inch section of the side plate totally removed, destroying the cam for the lock, with a further 2 inches removed at the bottom. The right barrel extension has had the forward 6 inches completely removed. Additionally, the barrel has had the chamber welded shut, and the triggering mechanism is no longer included. It cannot chamber or fire any type ammunition in its present configuration and must not be altered, restored, disassembled, or modified. The purchaser is responsible for determining and complying with all applicable federal, state, and local laws before purchase or possession.


    The German LMG 08 series was developed from the Maxim system for aircraft use during WWI, with weight reduction and an air cooled perforated barrel jacket replacing the heavy water jacket of the ground gun. These weapons became closely associated with German fighter and observation aircraft, where fixed guns could be synchronized for firing through the propeller arc.


    The top cover on this example is marked:


    1518
    a
    M.G. 08/15.
    Gwf.
    SPANDAU.
    1917.


    The Gwf. marking refers to Gewehr und Munitionsfabrik Spandau, the major Imperial German government arms establishment at Spandau. The top cover is dated 1917 and carries serial number 1518 a.


    This example has the front mounting bracket present on the rear bottom of the barrel jacket, however the brass interrupter gear, which prevented the gun from firing into the propeller by synchronizing the timing, is missing. It is also missing the brass safety on the right side of the receiver, and many of the components are not matching, and may be from the ground mount version. There is still the correct extension going back from the left sliding plate where the fusee spring would have been attached. The fusee spring, cover, and lock mechanism are not included.


    Many of the components are nonmatching, and some appear to have originated with ground mounted Maxim variants. Most notably, the top cover retains a rear sight and is marked M.G. 08/15, features consistent with a ground gun component rather than a purpose built aircraft top cover.


    The differing components indicate that this should be regarded as an inert display assembly incorporating genuine period parts rather than represented as a completely matching, as-issued aircraft gun.


    Condition shows significant age and exposure. Many of the metal components exhibit old oxidation, peppering, and areas of pitting. The mismatched serial numbers elsewhere on the assembly are consistent with parts replacement or later assembly from multiple components.


    With its 1917 dated Spandau top cover, serial number 1518 a, aircraft style lightened barrel jacket, surviving mounting bracket, and extensive original Maxim components, this is an imposing WWI German aviation display piece. The removed side plate sections, cut barrel extension, welded chamber, missing trigger mechanism, absent fusee assembly, missing interrupter gear and safety, nonmatching components, ground gun top cover, oxidation, and pitting are all fully disclosed. It would display especially well in an Imperial German aviation, WWI aircraft armament, Maxim system, Spandau arsenal, or advanced inert ordnance collection.


    History of the LMG 08-


    The lightened air-cooled version, the lMG 08, was developed by the Spandau arsenal as a rigidly mounted aircraft machine gun and went into production in 1915, in single-gun mounts, for use on the E.I through the E.III production versions of the Fokker Eindecker. A lower case letter "L" beginning the prefix meant luftgekühlt (air-cooled) rather than Luft (air). The lMG 08s were later used in pairs by the time of the introduction of the Fokker D.III and Albatros D.I biplane fighters in 1916, as fixed and synchronized cowling guns firing through the propeller. The Parabellum MG14 built by DWM was a lighter (22 lbs) and quite different Maxim system gun with a very high rate of fire (900 rounds/min). It was introduced in 1915, and was, but not without serious problems on occasion (as noted by Otto Parschau), prototyped on Parschau's own A.16/15 Fokker A.III monoplane with the Fokker Stangensteuerung gun synchronizer, received by Parschau on May 30, 1915 and first used in quantity as the synchronized forward-firing armament on the five examples of the Fokker M.5K/MG Eindecker production prototype aircraft, and soon afterwards served as a flexible aircraft observer's gun for rear defense. The initial model of the air-cooled "Spandau" lMG 08 front-firing cowling machine guns had lost the stocks, grips, and bipods of the infantry MG 08s, but the 103 mm diameter cylindrical sheet metal water jacket was initially over-lightened with cooling slots, and because the cooling jacket on the MG 08 series of guns was an important structural support for the barrel, the excessive slotting of the initial air-cooled lMG 08 rendered the gun as too fragile to the point of making it impossible to fit the muzzle booster that the water-cooled infantry MG 08 guns could be fitted with. The later model of lMG 08 air-cooled machine gun had the slotting omitted at the extreme ends of the cooling jacket's cylindrical member, with a 13 cm wide area of solid sheet metal at the breech end, and a 5 cm wide solid area at the muzzle end, giving the resultant gun much more rigidity. Also, the lMG 08 retained unchanged the rectangular rear receiver and breech assembly of the water-cooled MG 08 infantry weapon. Later the receiver would be lightened by being "stepped down" at its upper rear and lower forward corners as the more developed and lighter weight LMG 08/15 version was developed, using the same airframe mounting geometry as the earlier ordnance. The lMG 08's and lMG 08/15's would always be used as fixed forward-aimed synchronized firing in dual mounts on German single-seat fighter aircraft, first appearing most notably on the mass-produced examples of Robert Thelen's Albatros D.I and D.II fighters in late 1916, and singly on German armed two-seat observation aircraft for synchronized forward-firing armament. A device, occasionally fitted to the rear surface of the LMG 08/15's backplate, told the pilot how much ammunition was left to fire, and later on a significant upgrade to the gun's aerial usability was the fitting of the Klingstrom device on the right side of the receiver, which allowed the gun to be cocked and loaded with one hand from the cockpit. Various cocking/charging handle styles evolved with a simplified distinctive long handled cocking/charging device finally becoming preferred late in the war.


    LMG 08/15's used the 30mm "two hole" ammunition belts of the flexible Parabellum MG14 machine gun rather than the wider "three hole" belts of the MG 08/15 water-cooled infantry weapon. It is possible that these belts were used as they were a bit lighter and less bulky than the wider "three hole" ground gun belts and certainly made for standardization which would have been easier for the armorers and in addition allowed for smaller and lighter "tubes" or "chutes" that guided the empty belts into storage containers in the aircraft after firing. It is a common misconception that the tubes or chutes coming out of the fixed mounted aviation LMG 08/15 fixed guns were for expended cartridge cases; in actuality these attachments were for guiding the empty cartridge belts into a container inside the fuselage of the aircraft so that the belts would not interfere with the operation of the aircraft. As the entire MG 08 Spandau family of German machine guns ejected their empty cartridge cases forward through a round hole in the receiver under the barrel (as can be clearly seen on many videos) these cartridge cases were guided out of the aircraft (except on post Fokker Eindecker Fokker designed aircraft) through tubes from under the barrel to the bottom of the fuselage. With Fokker designed aircraft following the Eindecker the cartridge cases were ejected without tubes from the receiver hole directly into open trays that guided the tumbling cartridge cases backward and sideways onto the sloped fuselage decking which them streamed down past the cockpit on either side. These trays are clearly visible in photographs but have rarely been recognized for their purpose. Hermann Goering, who flew both the Fokker Dr.I and Fokker D.VII was obviously so annoyed with the case tumbling out in front of him that he had deflectors made on his aircraft to ensure the empty cartridge cases did not find their way into his cockpit. On photographs of Goering's aircraft these plates, only seen on his aircraft, are very prevalent and have even been recognized in scale models of his aircraft copying his particular planes, but even then most historians have failed to recognize their purpose. Both empty belt guides and trays were attached directly to the machine guns rather than to the aircraft. In the famous film showing Australian officers handling the LMG 08/15's from the crashed Baron von Richthofen's triplane, the Fokker type belt tubes/chutes and empty cartridge trays can be clearly seen still attached to the guns.


    More than 23,000 examples of the LMG 08/15 and an unknown number of the lMG 08 were produced during World War I.


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Frequently Asked Questions

Yes, this item is a BATF-compliant, fully deactivated display machine gun and is not classified as a firearm under U.S. federal law. It has been permanently rendered incapable of discharging ammunition and cannot be converted to functional condition. As such, it does not require an FFL transfer, registration, or federal license for ownership or shipment within the United States. U.S. Sales Only: Due to legal restrictions, this item is available for sale and shipment within the United States only. It cannot be exported outside the U.S. under any circumstances. Purchasers are responsible for ensuring compliance with all federal, state, and local laws regarding the possession and display of inert or deactivated firearms in their jurisdiction.

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