Original Item: Jacob Snider, an American from New York, developed this breech loading system for the P-1853 Enfield, the most prolific imported Percussion rifle in use by both the North and South during the U.S. Civil War. When the British Board of Ordnance appointed a Select Committee in 1864 the Snider system was swiftly adopted with the first breech loaders being issued in 1865 to British forces. Improved in 1867 by the use of Colonel Boxer's center fire brass bodied cartridge, the rifle was used very effectively in the Abyssinian Campaign of 1868. The system utilized a hinged breech block with an internal firing pin assembly that permitted the use of a self contained cartridge of lead bullet in cardboard, and, after 1867, brass casing. This highly efficient conversion system prolonged the active life of the P-1853 rifles up until 1871 when the Martini System was adopted. Snider rifles saw continued use throughout the Empire but were officially obsolete by the late 1880s.
These 140+ year-old Rifles and Socket Bayonets are TOTALLY untouched and offered in AS IS condition for you to enjoy!
What does “Untouched Condition” mean? OK, this is exactly what we are offering: Genuine P-1864 Snider type Breech Loading Rifle with Short Socket Bayonet that have laid undisturbed for nearly 150 years in far from perfect storage conditions in the Old Palace of Lagan Silekhana in Katmandu, Nepal. Our DVD of "TREASURE IS WHERE YOU FIND IT" shows these very weapons as we found them and the story behind them.
What you will get:
• Breech Block
• New Made or Original Brass Butt Plate (fitting required)
• 3 Barrel Bands
• Brass Trigger Guard
• Stock [May have Cracks, Missing Chunks, Old repairs, Wood Rot]
What you might not get:
• Cleaning Rod
• Screws [Sling Swivel, Butt Plate, Lock, etc]
• Breech Block Lever
• Firing Pin
• Brass Nose Cap
• Sling Swivel
• Barrel Springs
• Small internal parts
• Other bits…
• Will show Rust
• Will be Covered in filth
• May not operate
• May be incomplete
• Stock may be broken or cracked
• May be frozen in grime
However, EVERY P-1864 SNIDER WILL BE 100% GENUINE!
We ask you to look closely at the photographs, the example photographed here is a typical gun that could expect to receive, read reviews, both good and bad, and only then place an order understanding what you are likely to receive. We want Educated Aware Customers. If it isn't what you expect, that is fine, return it (before you attempt any restoration or cleaning) and the full gun purchase price will be refunded to you, however the customer will pay shipping both ways. We cannot exchange guns and will not get into an exchange situation, so please do not ask. We are not trying to sell you an incomplete weapon and then sell you the missing parts. We will do our best to make sure it is complete as possible. One day we will also sell replacement parts, but that is in the distant future.
We are not trying to frustrate you; we are trying to fill a void in the marketplace for genuine but affordable rare and unique antique weapons so that collectors and historians of all backgrounds can enjoy a genuine part of history. These should be viewed as “project” guns, work on it with your Son or Grandson, clean it up, hang it over your mantle, or don’t clean it, they are impressive anyway you seem them. The price is affordable; the history is priceless.
If you want to shoot it, DON’T! If you still want to shoot it, take it to a licensed GUNSMITH first. These are 130+ year-old hand made guns, be very careful, IMA sells these for display purposes only, they are not intended to be fired. Please buy our products, but do read the reviews and descriptions first. We feel you will agree that the recovery of old weapons from Nepal was a milestone for the collecting fraternity and we hope you enjoy a genuine antique weapon that has never been touched by any other collector than you.
- Shipping Restrictions
This product is not available for shipping in US state(s) New Jersey .
This product is available for international shipping.
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- Legal Information
IMA considers all of our antique guns as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns made prior to 1899. This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering because they are not legally considered firearms. No FFL, C&R or any license is required to posses, transport, sell or trade Antique guns. All rifles and muskets sold by IMA that were manufactured prior to 1899 are considered Antiques by the US BATF (United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms). Therefore, all of IMA's Antique guns may be shipped to all US States and most nations around the world.
These antique guns are not sold in “live” condition. They are sold as collector’s items or as “wall hangers”. Any attempt at restoring an antique gun to be operational is strongly discouraged and is done so at the risk of the customer. By purchasing an antique gun from IMA you thereby release IMA, its employees and corporate officers from any and all liability associated with use of our Antique guns.
Pre-1899 Manufacture, no licenses required, allowed to ship to almost any deliverable address across the globe.
- fantastic Review by robbo
Price Value Quality
I purchased an unclean snider last year and have worked out some loads and recently fired the old girl, the gun after cleaning was great, the barrel was in great condition and the action works perfectly, I have recently fired some loads. I completed a six shot 4 inch group at 50 yards, I hit 7 out of 10 on a 500mm square board at around 80 yards, with a few within a hand size group.
am stoked and will continue shooting it, am considering some hunting with this one.
cheers for all at IMA
(Posted on 1/27/15)
- Excellent Review by Cofaler
Quality Price Value
I bought this some time ago and didn't do anything with it until recently. Initially I was very disappointed, it was my first IMA untouched gun purchase and was lacking any of the fabled 'yak fat', and was cleaned and degreased. I was concerned I received someone's return. I finally took it apart and inspected it yesterday and discovered a very nice unpitted barrel with a nice brown patina and sound wood, with no rot and just enough worm holes to give it some character. I've bought 6 untouched rifles from IMA, and I've been happy with all of them.
(Posted on 9/8/14)
- Update to my first, initial, review. Review by Don In Alabama
Quality Price Value
The Snider cleaned up perfectly, no parts were missing at all. The ONLY damage was some wormholes in the stock. I left them as they are. The bore was AMAZING! I took it to the range today using some "Snider Chow" that I learned how to make on youtube and it's awesome. I was able to hit a 1'x2' target at 100 meters with every shot. It is now my favorite rifle I own.
(Posted on 8/10/14)
- I can't believe how it cleaned up!! Review by Don In Alabama
Price Value Quality
I really wish there was a way to post pictures here. I got one of these last week thinking it would take me weeks or months to clean up, but it took me at most 20 hours to clean it (and a good part of that was being VERY careful not to mess up a screw slot or figuring how to take it apart). When I first unboxed the rifle, I though it had been in a fire, it looked SO BAD!. But now, I'm proud to show it to friends and others on the numerous milsurp Facebook that I'm in. After cleaning the stock, I believe there is at least 50%-75% of the original finish! All of the parts were there and the bore is just unbelievable.
(Posted on 5/18/14)
- There are still some good pieces Review by Andy C
Quality Price Value
This was the second of three untouched opened today (an 'F' and a Martini Mk11) and 100% complete. One barrel band needs repositioning but, other than a clean, this will be the easiest restoration yet. Amazed there are still good ones on the pile given the popularity of this rifle - but delighted as well. Buying a couple of thousand miles away on trust for a something with a lot of caveats is a gamble if you are looking for a 'better' condition piece - but I cannot fault the selection made for me. Thank you IMA.
(Posted on 11/28/13)
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